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(A recent message looked at the Ecuadorian police.)

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Ecuador police in Cotacachi

A recent message at this site about Ecuador Police said:  One reason we like Ecuador is that there is no hassle with the Ecuador police.

We have never seen corruption with the Ecuador police.

Previously we lived in the Dominican Republic and we were continually stopped and fined… for nothing.   Usually the fine was 50 cents (this was a long time ago)…. but what a hassle….sometimes the fine was $10 or so.
This does not happen in Ecuador… no hassle at immigration… no hassle in traffic… no hassle with the Ecuador police.

A reader sent this note with an Ecuador police comment: Gary, my elderly father lives one block away from police station and has had his house burglerized 3 times. All 3 times he has walked over to the police station and filled out a report to no avail. We have ALWAYS found the police to be extremely corrupt.

I would like to clarify the difference between corruption and effectiveness.

Fortunately Merri and I have never needed the Ecuadorian police, so I cannot comment on their effectiveness, but we have needed the police in other places like North Carolina.  Bear hunters kept setting their dogs on our land while we were conducting seminars.   This does not seem like a good combination to me… seminar delegates mixing with chased bears.  I called the sheriff repeatedly.  “That’s an issue for animal control”, I was told. I called animal control. “That’s an issue for trespassing. Call the sheriff,” was the reply.

Once I needed the police when I lived in London.  A thief walked into out office in the middle the day… entered an empty office and grabbed money and some business items. I and an employee stupidly took chase, cornered the guy who tried to hide in a garbage bin.  We trapped him inside and got two Bobbies.  They had the thief red handed with our money and other office supplies.  They took the man away and we never heard a word again… nor did we get our money back.

Our house was robbed in Naples, Florida. A thief broke into the house middle of the day and rambled through the place for 15 minutes before  I caught him and stupidly attacked him and chased him out of the house with a pointed artist’s paint brush.  I have this bad habit of taking offense when someone breaks into my premises and lose my temper which could cause me (and/or the thief) harm.   Avoidance  is a better way… but there you have it.

The point is other than really messing up the house with black finger print dust, I never heard from the police again.

Our daughter in Lakeland, Florida had her purse stolen and within hours the thief was photographed presenting a a forged check at her bank.   The police’s comment was…”We are too busy with serious crimes like murder to pursue this.”

Last week someone hopped our fence in Florida and helped themselves to the outboard motor on our bass fishing boat.

The deputy sheriff’s comment when I reported this was… “There is not much chance that we’ll catch them”.  Frankly we do not expect them to even try.  Would you in your home town?

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“Dr. Mister Johnson… where are thou?”

I do not know how effective the police are in Ecuador.  My experience however with other police has been that they are not very effective anywhere.  So I do my best to protect myself and not rely much on the police…. anywhere.

My hope is that in turn the police keep the peace as much as is possible and leave me alone and do not needlessly hassle me as they do in many emerging countries because they are so poorly paid.

My experience is that Ecuadorian police are very professional in this way… polite… and not interfering.

Another reader wrote:  Just thought that I would share an experience with you that I encountered on my 2nd visit to Ecuador in August 2011. 

My girlfriend & I, two American blonds, were traveling through some small towns along the coast between Manta & Salinas & we were stopped 2 times in 2 days by the local police.  The first time was because my girlfriend did not have her seat belt on; we had just stopped a few minutes before that & she had forgotten to put her belt on. 

We were stopped by 2 policemen & of course we do not speak any Spanish.  So they proceeded to motion to us the reason for stopping us.  They asked for our license & passports.  They motioned to me that they were going to write me a ticket but I played dumb so I could try to get out of the ticket.  After they tried to explain, in Spanish, 10 minutes later they motioned me to continue on my way. 

The very next day we were stopped in the same town…you will love this one, not for a seat belt either! My girlfriend had her seat belt on, but had her feet on the dashboard.  Apparently that was a “no-no”.  No ticket though. 

Just odd because people in Ecuador travel with 15 people in the back of a pickup…standing up…but if the driver or passenger in the vehicle does not have a seat belt on, it’s dangerous…not for the other 15 people that could fly out of the truck if it had an accident! Too Funny! Hope you enjoy!

I did enjoy this comment and it makes an important point about prejudice.  In the US, I drive a very unobtrusive mini van. I know that this normally gives me 5 miles an hour or more of protection from being stopped by the police than if I were driving a red corvette or some other hot looking car.  I believe that colorful. stylish, fast cars have a negative prejudice with the police.  Mini vans have a positive and very boring prejudice.

There is a degree of profiling in most things.  This has been a big issues with US traffic stops… that black and latino drivers in certain types of cars are more likely to be stopped than other drivers in other types of cars.

Positive and negative prejudice is everywhere including Ecuador… gringos stick out so we are careful to obey the laws.  This reader’s comments confirms our experience.  We are seen…. because we are different.  In some cases this makes us extra welcome, in other cases resented.

Merri and I have experienced this globally.  When I lived in Hong Kong I knew that most of the population viewed me as a long nosed foreign devil.  Everything there had three prices…. for long nosed tourists… for long nosed residents and for Chinese.

In Florida we have always been seen as “snow birds” because we leave in the summer.

In North Carolina Floridians are know as  “Floridiots”.  When we first moved in and the 911 address assigner visited… and warned us… “Get rid of your Florida license plates or you’ll be treated in a bad way”.

We already knew this as we have learned how to fit in as foreigners.  Yet there are times when the prejudices catch up.  A couple of years ago a logger incorrectly started cutting trees on our farm. When I tried to stop him… he chased me with a chain saw.  When the deputy sheriff arrived his first question was, “Do you live here year round?”  Even though I had a survey of my land.  Even though I showed the deputy the survey pins… he would not make the logger leave.  ‘This is a property dispute” was his comment.  There is little doubt in my mind that the deputy’s lack of enthusiasm was because he went to school with the logger, knew him personally since childhood and because I was a “Floridiot” in the deputy’s mind.

Our experience is that when one is “not from around here” wherever you are… there is some prejudice… some good and some bad.  That fact applies universally… beyond the police.

Here’ what we do: Expect this and adapt to it… show that we are a good person.  Be a positive part of the community. Learn how the locals live and fit in rather than try to change them to the way you lived elsewhere.  This will usually stand for more than the prejudices….that is if not you are in the wrong place.

Our experience is that Ecuadorians are warm and welcoming and that the positive prejudices outweigh the negative… in all sectors of the society including the Ecuadorian police.

Whenever I do not find my neighbors warm and welcoming I have found that the question “What’s wrong with them?” might not be the one to ask.  Instead we take the advice of  a wise Sufi poet from long ago… Rumi who said… “Polish the mirror”.

Gary

2013-2014 Super Thinking + Spanish – Writing to Sell – Business & Investing Course Schedule

Schedule 2013-2014  Super Thinking + Spanish  – Writing to Sell – Investing & Business Courses.

Here are photos I took of Mt. Dora…

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during…

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its annual arts festival. 

2013

June 21-22-23  Super Thinking + Spanish  St. Charles, MO  Single $699  /  Couple $899 (Teacher Mark Frakes)

July 5-6-7  Super Thinking + Spanish  Sarasota, Florida  Single $699  /  Couple $899  (Teacher Mark Frakes)

July 12-13-14 Super Thinking + Spanish Kelowna, BC, Canada  Single $699  /  Couple $899 (Teachers Shawn & Suzanne Bandick)

August 16-17-18  Super Thinking + Spanish  St. Charles, MO  Single $699  /  Couple $899 (Teacher Mark Frakes)

August 31-September 1-2  Super Thinking Writer’s Camp  West Jefferson, NC  (Gary & Merri Scott)

September 27-28-29  Super Thinking + Spanish  St. Charles, MO  Single $699  /  Couple $899 (Teacher Mark Frakes)

October 4-5-6  Super Thinking International Investing & Business Seminar  West Jefferson, NC  

Enroll here $799.   Couple $999 (Gary & Merri Scott)

November 15-16-17   Super Thinking + Writer’s Camp  Mt. Dora, Florida  (Gary & Merri Scott) 

November 21-22-23  Super Thinking +Spanish  Puerto Aventuras, Mexico Single $699/Couple $899 (Teachers Suzanne & Shawn Bandick)

2014

January 10-11-12   Super Thinking + Spanish  Mt. Dora, Florida  (Gary & Merri Scott)

February 14-15-16  Super Thinking International Investing & Business Seminar  Mt. Dora, Florida  

Enroll here $799.   Couple $999  (Gary & Merri Scott)

For information more contact Cheri Hall at cheri@garyascott.com

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